Is there any new news of these story?
Not that I know of but you can click on the first link I provided to read Gerrit's sworn statement to the court refusing a court order.
with many more cases in the offing the zalkin lawfirm will press the issue again and again and force gerrit loesch to testify.
what say you?.
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Is there any new news of these story?
Not that I know of but you can click on the first link I provided to read Gerrit's sworn statement to the court refusing a court order.
with many more cases in the offing the zalkin lawfirm will press the issue again and again and force gerrit loesch to testify.
what say you?.
.
Here is the court doc of Gerrit Leoch refusal to appear:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2428458/img-921115847-0001.pdf
And here's some interesting info on getting a subpoena and not attending:
http://www.howtovanish.com/2011/04/three-steps-to-handle-a-subpoena/
And How To Protect Your Privacy From One
Learning how to get out of a subpoena is very important because the subpoena is one of the most invasive legal tools in the US. Its not just several pages of headache inducing legalese. It is a court order, demanding you to comply with whatever expensive command is gracing its pages. It might ask you to reveal more about your business than you would like your competitors to know. It might reveal embarrassing personal information.
A subpoena doesn’t even need to be signed by a judge. A court clerk, prosecutor or even a private attorney can issue a subpoena to gather information.
The worst part is that you don’t even have to be involved in a criminal or civil case to get served with one. All you need is to have possession of some record that is remotely likely to contain information relevant to a case or investigation. In the law we call those kinds of requests “fishing expeditions.”Not everybody likes fishing, especially the fish. There are ways to protect your privacy and protect the privacy of your customers or clients from an invasive subpoena with a few simple tips.
Types of Subpoenas
There are three basic types of subpoenas. One will ask you only to produce records. Another will ask you to appear in person and testify. The third will ask for both. These tips are geared towards the first, producing records, but may help for the other two as well.How likely are you to be served with a subpoena? Everyone’s situation will be different, but when you look at how many lawsuits are filed every year, and think that there are probably a handful of subpoenas issued for each lawsuit, the chances are pretty high that you or your business will get one at some point. Every year, much more information is gathered from subpoenas than from wire taps.
Who do they send the subpoena to?
It can be directed to you, ordering you to produce records that you possess about yourself or about someone else. It can also be issued to someone else to get records they have about you. Sometimes a third party will notify you if your records have been subpoenaed, but many times, you will not have any notice at all.
What can they get with a subpoena?
Either you or a third party are ordered to produce just about any record that is kept. There is no need for probable cause, all they need is some reasonable belief that there might be evidence in the records requested. Those records include anything like customer orders, invoices, repair reports, subscriber lists, contracts, memos, meeting minutes, and lots of other things.
There are a few things that you don’t have to produce. Privileged material, like communications with your lawyer, remain private. Also, things like emails, text messages and voice mail require a higher standard for law enforcement and opponents to collect. A subpoena can still get a list of the numbers you dialed, the websites you visited and lots of other information that could lead to more evidence anyways.
How To Get Out Of A Subpoena – What to do if you get a subpoena.
Step 1.
Take the paper and close your door or walk away. Don’t say anything to the person giving it to you, don’t invite them in, don’t read it in front of them, don’t buy them a beer. Just take it and get to a phone.Step 2.
Call your lawyer. You can challenge a subpoena in court before you have to produce anything. If its too broad or burdensome to comply with or if it seeks privileged material then you may be able to limit the scope of what you have to produce and you may even be able to quash it completely.
You can even challenge a subpoena received by a third party if any of your own records would be disclose and, assuming you know about the subpoena in time to challenge it. A lawyer can also help make sure you limit the documents you produce to the bare essentials.
You do not want to waste time and money disclosing more than you have to and it is responsible citizenship to not provide a huge amount of unneeded documents that are irrelevant yet would cost taxpayer funds to sift through.
Step 3.
Don’t ignore a subpoena. You could be held in contempt of court if you do.
Prevent Disclosure of Records From a Subpoena
Keep as few records as possible. If you don’t have it then you either will not or cannot produce it. The more records you have then the more likely it is that you have something that someone else wants.
Have a clear document retention policy and stick to it. If you are selectively destroying a few records here and there then it might look like you are trying to hide evidence. Never destroy records after a subpoena is issued or even if you think one might have been issued. That is a big no no.
Make Fewer Records Yourself
You may find it hard to learn how to get out of a subpoena since third parties can be compelled to disclose details about you and since you may not always know this with enough time to challenge the subpoena and therefore you should limit the records that other companies and individuals have about you. Simply reduce the footprints of data you leave all over the place.
Be as anonymous as possible to other companies that might be making records with your information. Use proxy servers, Tor, VPNs, Startpage,prepaid cell phones, pay for things in cash, and many other techniques from the book How to Vanish. This way, even if third party records are disclosed, they do not immediately identify you.
Retain Less Data
You may learn how to get out of a subpoena to be fairly easy if you simply have a zero knowledge policy to begin with. Even if you collect some information about customers or yourself, you can eliminate unnecessary data on a regular basis according to your written data retention policy.
Securely delete old files, anonymize marketing data, delete emails, wipe old hard drives, use encryption to store and send files, and clear your browsing history. And don’t forget the old fashioned technique ofshredding your trash.Use Offshore Companies
Records of companies outside of US jurisdiction are harder to reach by simple court processes. Some countries, like Panama, are known for flagrantly disregarding US court orders.
If you want be successful when learning how to get out of a subpoena and protect your records then use foreign companies. You can get email (like Hushmail), VPNs (like Private Internet Access), and a lot of other services from foreign countries.
Conclusion
All of these measures don’t mean that you will never be served with a subpoena. It means that if you are lucky you can respond with the glorious “certification of no records. ” But it will still be a win if you can reduce the number of records that you have to produce from millions down to dozens.
If you can figure out how to get out of a subpoena then it is a lot easier, less expensive and will protect more privacy than if you simply submit. Check out other ways to reduce the records that you make and keep with the book How To Vanish.
lett is back with a vengance!.
* the last money-begging effort increased donations by 15% for two months; a letter by a 13 year old who donated is read out loud.
* since last may "so many good things have happened".
Lett is quite the spin doctor with his lips flapping to beat the band as he spins one yarn after another, as he holds his corporation's bible in the picture above he's giving the middle finger with his left hand under the bible.
At minutes 28-30 says that the volunteer are willing and want to go to Warwick tomorrow. I have a feeling that such feelings will be fading as more scandals become known and the GB get subpoenaed to court. Let them lap it up now because very soon things are going to change drastically.
lett is back with a vengance!.
* the last money-begging effort increased donations by 15% for two months; a letter by a 13 year old who donated is read out loud.
* since last may "so many good things have happened".
These guys are hardened liars. Anything they say is a lie and anything they deny the opposite is true. If they say that donation went up by 15% I would suggest the opposite is true. They will never say contribution are plummeting after the last big money grab because this would cause an even further decline in contributions so it is deny deny deny to keep the money coming in.
If they say: "The governing body has re-analysed ways to cut back at all branches to re-direct money to the field. including long-standing Bethel routines and services".
You can bet the money is going towards anticipated multi child molestation pay outs and huge costs in legal representation to keep from going under. The lawsuit lawyers are like sharks that smell blood in the water and are circling around the Watchtower carcass to get their share of the banquet to feast on. We should be hearing very soon now about many Kingdom Hall being put on the market to help this corporation from drowning in debt.
jehovah's witnesses standing on a street corner publicly promoting the propaganda of the governing body!another ridiculous form of "forced loyalty" to jehovah.
"dirty work" that the wtbts make witnesses go through.preaching work '' lite''.putting more heavy loads on members while the ''faithful and discreet slave'' preach from warm studios without the humiliation.
what an embarrassment!.
this is a question for ex jw's who have joined another christian faith group.
the purpose of my question iis to find out which christian faith group you chose after leaving watchtower and what convinced you to travel this new spiritual path you are on.
i am interested to know because i personally would like to find a genuine faith group where i can feel true christian liberty as i initially thought i had with the witnesses.
About 15 years ago I got baptized in the assembly of God church but about 3 months latter I found out the Bible was all bull shit so that ended my gullibility they are all full of crap about their imaginary friend.
You don't want lightening to strike twice in the same place so stop falling for all the baloney that preachers of the word dish out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zo_cyho90y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlchmi0cc00
Gravity at this stage is the negative energy and mass positive energy = 0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-energy_universe
Pascual Jordan first suggested that since the positive energy of a star’s mass and the negative energy of its gravitational field together may have zero total energy, conservation of energy would not prevent a star being created by a quantum transition of the vacuum. George Gamow recounted putting this idea to Albert Einstein: “Einstein stopped in his tracks and, since we were crossing a street, several cars had to stop to avoid running us down”.[3]
The zero-energy universe theory originated in 1973, when Edward Tryon proposed in the Nature journal that the universe emerged from a large-scale quantum fluctuation of vacuum energy, resulting in its positive mass-energy being exactly balanced by its negative gravitational potential energy.[4]
Free-lunch interpretation[edit]
A generic property of inflation is the balancing of the negative gravitational energy, within the inflating region, with the positive energy of the inflaton field to yield a post-inflationary universe with negligible or zero energy density.[5][6] It is this balancing of the total universal energy budget that enables the open-ended growth possible with inflation; during inflation, energy flows from the gravitational field (or geometry) to the inflaton field—the total gravitational energy decreases (i.e. becomes more negative) and the total inflaton energy increases (becomes more positive). But the respective energy densities remain constant and opposite since the region is inflating. Consequently, inflation explains the otherwise curious cancellation of matter and gravitational energy on cosmological scales, which is consistent with astronomical observations.[7]
Quantum fluctuation[edit]
Due to quantum uncertainty, energy fluctuations such as an electron and its anti-particle, a positron, can arise spontaneously out of vacuum space, but must disappear rapidly. The lower the energy of the bubble, the longer it can exist. A gravitational field has negative energy. Matter has positive energy. The two values cancel out provided the universe is completely flat. In that case, the universe has zero energy and can theoretically last forever.[4][8]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlchmi0cc00
I think we need to think of the law of conservation of energy too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another. For instance, chemical energy can be converted to kinetic energy in the explosion of a stick of dynamite.
A consequence of the law of conservation of energy is that a perpetual motion machine of the first kind cannot exist. That is to say, no system without an external energy supply can deliver an unlimited amount of energy to its surroundings.[1]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlchmi0cc00
how can a nothing condition with the potential to unleash the energy/mass/ spacetime of our universe have been nothing?
Who is to say that nothing ever existed in a total form? Nobody! We need first determine what/whether total absence of something or anything for that matter is even possible. In terms of what a modern human might be able to imagine with out a critical thinking who knows what we might come up with and the variable possiblities. I think that is why quantum mechanics is counter intuitive Ultimate Reality doesn't match up with perceived reality with the senses which can be mistaken for the ultimate.